[Question]: EDR pipe asset cost

[ladderup]

Hi,

I was using the ESDL Analytics to get the CAPEX of infrastructure.
The CAPEX was about 520Meuro.
The route (tracé) length is about 80km
That makes the average trace prize 6400 euro/m

To me that is very high.
So I looked at the price in the EDR database (see uploaded image)
I also downloaded and exported the ESDL to an excel (see uploaded excel)
And I realized that ESDL Analytics sums supply and return and multiplies it the the EDR prices.

So my quastion:
Is the EDR price a 'trace' price or a 'single pipe' price.

Default scenario_Run_58_v1.0.xlsx

[samvanderzwan]

As far as I know the price in EDR is price per length for single pipe and not for trace.
@KobusVanRooyen what are your thoughts on this?

[KobusVanRooyen]

@samvanderzwan and @ladderup here is some feedback:

• the price used for the pipes as listed in the EDR is for investment and installation cost
• these costs come from the partner inputs during the warmingup project and the installation cost is the average (if I remember correctly) between "Asfalt (expensive installation costs) and "Weiland" (cheaper installation cost)
• if the cost is 8619.6 EUR/m then this is the cost for the supply pipe only. So for a 1m long supply and return pipe the cost will be 8619.621

@ladderup does this help/clarify your question?

[ladderup]

Hi @KobusVanRooyen,

Thank you for your feedback. And yes that clarifies my question.
But I'm helped yet :)

I think this price per pipe length is to high then.
To me, the prices listen in de EDR are typical trace prices. They have more our lest the correct price.

My project collega Frank Soons also pointed out to me this publication
https://cedelft.eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/CE_Delft_210347_Warmtetenetten-in-Vesta-MAIS_DEF.pdf
In tabel 8 are aggerated trace length prices.
I have to admit that the header of the tabel also adds confusion.
But I'm quite confident that CE-Delft is listing trace prices in tabel 8.

[KobusVanRooyen]

@MichielTukker and @samvanderzwan should this be investigated further?

[ladderup]

Hi,

I talk to Frank Soons ones more and he mentioned a WarmingUp project.
https://www.warmingup.info/documenten/eindrapport-2c-aanlegkosten-warmteleidingen.pdf
In this project (real) data from warmtebedrijven etc. was acquired and put into a model owned by Deltares.

VastaMais also used prices for leidingen.
https://www.pbl.nl/uploads/default/downloads/pbl-2021-functioneel-ontwerp-vesta-mais-5.0-4583.pdf

I put them to gather is this overview: