Needs updated to new strategies!

[cdmichaelb]

I recommend disabling the script if anyone has the power to do so until it's update.

This is imo the best of the scripts, so even despite it not being updated for current strategies there are probably too many people using it.

[ensingm2]

Can you link the new strategies?

[cdmichaelb]

Sorry a lot of it is rant-y. http://imgur.com/a/99UOw
Short version is turn off DPS completely for WH stages. WH stages should hopefully last forever (unlikely to happen). WH Stage every multiple of 100.

I'm trying to get a better summary.

"basically they want to buy 10 wh for every 1 like new, sit on a boss for 30 minutes and zoom to 5m"

[cdmichaelb]

Summary written up by LovesWHs[002] on #YeOldeWH IRC (but taken from #ulletical chat):

Today we switched to a new strategy, it involves using the buff to Wormholes that causes them to skip 10 levels if your current level is a boss level.
We've gotten a few rooms up to 300k, and two even past a million just by pausing on boss levels for 20-30 seconds and firing wormholes and cooldown helpers.
Now apparently the group will attempt to make it such that there will be NO damage done to a boss by clicks, nukes or anything else for an extended period of time
during which wormholes will be used, and Like New's periodically also used to clear the cooldowns. They want this to happen for over 30 minutes.
So the scripts need to turn off autoclicking and nuke usage for every 100th level, and preferably a few before it as well to counter timing issues.

[sinnoaria]

Actually, all that the script needs to do if it has bought auto damage is to go to an empty lane right? Pop into the boss room to throw a WH or LN then pop out before the next auto damage hits.

[ensingm2]

IDK, I think disabling auto-turret upgrades as a whole is a bad idea.

First, that wormhole strat will only ever matter if you're in one of the top rooms, which the vast majority of people aren't.

Second, they're pausing for a full hour, There's no way you can sustain wormhole use for that long, especially if people are also using Decrease Cooldowns. Without any decreased cooldowns, you'd personally need 60 wormholes per wormhole floor to make use of the full hour. You'd need even more if Decrease Cooldowns is also being spammed.

By keeping auto-turret clicks enabled, you'll still take down the boss, just at a massively reduced rate. That'll let you get to the next wormhole level faster and then you can just use any remaining wormholes on THAT level.

The other stuff I'll add in when I get back to my desktop, though.

[taklulaklu]

I think you should only enable WH every 100 and disable auto turret (waisted money into useless DPS). Like New isn't even necessary if 10 WH goes off that's 100 levels you don't need to use all your wormholes on one boss. I bet they will create a time limit for WH to work. and can you disable auto upgrade health and let us upgrade health it doesn't seem to work properly.

[ensingm2]

auto turret (waisted money into useless DPS).

This simply isn't true.

and can you disable auto upgrade health and let us upgrade health it doesn't seem to work properly.

It upgrades your health if it thinks you're going to die in the next n seconds (n defaults to 30). You can change this under Survival Time in the settings menu.

[taklulaklu]

does the script compare whether it's better to put points into armor piercing or auto-fire based on DPS or does it compare it only with it self. I've done some calculations and auto-fire only becomes useful later due to how cheap it becomes but only after you've fully upgraded all the armor piercing+ to a significant amount. it's better to pump them into click damage first. perhaps I'm wrong but I'm looking at per packet sent and cost of both versus damage output.

[ensingm2]

@taklulaklu:

When comparing damage upgrades, it compares dps / cost in order to find the most gold efficient item.

Similarly, for health upgrades it does dps / cost

As for your math saying it's only valid later on, please check again and make sure. People have brought this point up before and after rechecking the math by hand, things seem to check out as is.

[taklulaklu]

how about chance to crit? sense autofire can't crit

[ensingm2]

yeah, crit is part of the dps we calculate. crit is taken into account for click-related upgrades, but not auto-turrets

EDIT:
auto-turret dpg
click dpg
lucky shot dpg
elemental dpg

[taklulaklu]

crits do 9-10x more than elemental damage at the same level and after 60% I was getting multiple crits per packet until I reached 100+% which it then reset. If those aren't factored in or tested then it doesn't improve. you made a great script though that's all from me.

[ensingm2]

crits do 9-10x more than elemental damage at the same level and after 60% I was getting multiple crits per packet until I reached 100+% which it then reset. If those aren't factored in or tested then it doesn't improve.

Can you elaborate? Not sure I understand you here. I'll try to go through though.

crits do 9-10x more than elemental damage at the same level

Yes? not sure what this is implying. We take the differences in multipliers into account.

after 60% I was getting multiple crits per packet

Right, since you're sending 20 clicks per packet, it'd be pretty rare not to get multiple.

until I reached 100+% which it then reset.

Are you saying your crit chance was reset to 0?

[taklulaklu]

yea my crit chance was reset to 0% personally I wasn't expecting that. auto-fire is sent out once per packet so you actually need to multiply the armor piercings damage by 20 to accommodate that which is why I say it's useless because your getting 1/20th of DPS for the same price.

[ensingm2]

yea my crit chance was reset to 0% personally I wasn't expecting that.

Hmm, ok. I'll add a check to the crit auto-use that makes sure you don't go over 100%.

auto-fire is sent out once per packet so you actually need to multiply the armor piercings damage by 20 to accommodate that which is why I say it's useless because your getting 1/20th of DPS for the same price.

Please look at the code I linked above. we _already_ take that into account.
auto-turret dpg