Original Word Forms in IELex

[LinguList]

@evoling, do you plan on also adding the original word forms for the data, or will these be ignored in your tree sample? For CLDF, it would be perfect to have them.

[evoling]

The original word forms are in a bit of a mess: we have decent IPA for a subset of languages, but we never had reason to commit resources to doing this completely during the time that I *had* resources. m On 6 Dec 2021, at 10:54, Johann-Mattis List ***@***.******@***.***>> wrote: @evoling<https://github.com/evoling>, do you plan on also adding the original word forms for the data, or will these be ignored in your tree sample? For CLDF, it would be perfect to have them. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#2>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAVKSLSXQANFQPC2VBYSBQ3UPSB5XANCNFSM5JOF5NUQ>. När du har kontakt med oss på Uppsala universitet med e-post så innebär det att vi behandlar dina personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur vi gör det kan du läsa här: http://www.uu.se/om-uu/dataskydd-personuppgifter/ E-mailing Uppsala University means that we will process your personal data. For more information on how this is performed, please read here: http://www.uu.se/en/about-uu/data-protection-policy

[LinguList]

But the word forms would qualify as a Value and Form in CLDF, so it would be useful to have them, also for verification, whether in IPA or not.

[evoling]

Okay, we’ll do that (and make a new release in which we try to coerce the auto-generated Zenodo citation to be more satisfactory). M On 6 Dec 2021, at 10:59, Johann-Mattis List ***@***.******@***.***>> wrote: But the word forms would qualify as a Value and Form in CLDF, so it would be useful to have them, also for verification, whether in IPA or not. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#2 (comment)>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAVKSLT3V3CUP55DS7FR4GDUPSCRJANCNFSM5JOF5NUQ>. När du har kontakt med oss på Uppsala universitet med e-post så innebär det att vi behandlar dina personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur vi gör det kan du läsa här: http://www.uu.se/om-uu/dataskydd-personuppgifter/ E-mailing Uppsala University means that we will process your personal data. For more information on how this is performed, please read here: http://www.uu.se/en/about-uu/data-protection-policy

[tresoldi]

I will look into integrating the lexemes in the CSV file when I am back from holidays. It is not as straightforward as I had expected, as there cases with multiple values in the same field, and similar stuff.

Note that the lexemes are already included in the dataset, in the extract https://github.com/evotext/ielex-data-and-tree/blob/main/build/ielex-130421-ag-cc.txt . They were not added to the CSV file because they were not necessary there, as that file was designed as a single intermediate step in the pipeline and for teaching. In specific, that single tabular file was never intended to replace what can be done with a true, full-fledged CLDF dataset.

As in the analysis we dropped some doculects and had some other small changes, the CSV does not match completely the original, "historical" data. For archive goals with completeness in mind, you might prefer using that extract as the raw source.

[SimonGreenhill]

I've added these here:

#3