Multiple simultaneous devices - Second device has no force feedback [found workaround]

[ThreeDeeJay]

I tried to set up a Thrustmaster T150 alongside a MSFFB2, but only the one device at a time has FFB, even though each work when set up individually or as the first device in a multi-device config.

settings.json (used settingsXboxAndMSFFB2.json as base.)

Comparison

Console log:

Using setting file: C:\Programs\EDForceFeedback\settings.json
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] DeviceName: Thrustmaster T150 Racing Wheel: ProductGuid b677044f-0000-0000-0000-504944564944
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Found Joystick/Gamepad Thrustmaster T150 Racing Wheel
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Constant Force
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Ramp Force
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Square Wave
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Sine Wave
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Triangle Wave
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available SawtoothUp Wave
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Sawtooth Down Wave
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Spring Force
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Damper Force
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Inertia
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Friction
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Custom Force
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Axis Barrier
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Angle Barrier
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Axis Wall
10:40:47 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available Angle Wall
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Cargo.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available CenterSpringXY.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Damper.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Dock.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Gear.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Hardpoints.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Landed.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Vibrate.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available VibrateSide.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] DeviceName: Thrustmaster T150 Racing Wheel: ProductGuid b677044f-0000-0000-0000-504944564944
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] DeviceName: SideWinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick: ProductGuid 001b045e-0000-0000-0000-504944564944
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Found Joystick/Gamepad SideWinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_ConstantForce
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_RampForce
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_Square
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_Sine
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_Triangle
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_SawtoothUp
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_SawtoothDown
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_Spring
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_Damper
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_Inertia
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_Friction
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect available GUID_CustomForce
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Cargo.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available CenterSpringXY.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Damper.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Dock.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Gear.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Hardpoints.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Landed.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available Vibrate.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] File Effect available VibrateSide.ffe
10:40:48 dbug: EliteAPI.EliteDangerousApi[0] Initialising EliteAPI v3.0.0.0
10:40:48 dbug: EliteAPI.Events.EventParser[0] Using converter EliteAPI.Events.LocalisedConverter
10:40:48 dbug: EliteAPI.Events.Events[0] Registering events from EliteAPI.Events v3.0.0.0
10:40:48 dbug: EliteAPI.Events.Events[0] Registered 301 events from EliteAPI.Events v3.0.0.0
10:40:48 info: EliteAPI.EliteDangerousApi[0] Starting EliteAPI v3.0.0.0
10:40:48 warn: EliteAPI.Readers.Reader[0] No files found matching Backpack.json in C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Event EliteAPI.Events.Status.Cargo.CargoEvent
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Event EliteAPI.Events.Status.Modules.ModuleInfoEvent
10:40:48 warn: EliteAPI.Events.Events[0] The NavRouteClear event is not registered
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Event EliteAPI.Events.Status.Outfitting.OutfittingEvent
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Event EliteAPI.Events.ShipLockerEvent
10:40:48 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Event EliteAPI.Events.Status.Shipyard.ShipyardEvent
10:40:48 warn: EliteAPI.Readers.Reader[0] No files found matching Custom.4.0.binds in C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Bindings
10:40:52 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect 13541c24-8e33-11d0-9ad0-00a0c9a06e35 starting
10:40:52 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect 13541c27-8e33-11d0-9ad0-00a0c9a06e35 starting
10:40:52 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect 13541c28-8e33-11d0-9ad0-00a0c9a06e35 starting
10:40:54 dbug: Journals.Client[0] Effect Dock.ffe complete

I did find a workaround:
Dragging settingsT150.json and settingsMSFFB2.json into EDForceFeedback.exe (or running a script like EDForceFeedback.cmd.zip) to launch 2 separate instances allows both devices to have FFB, but I think it'd be more practical to allow both working at once, especially if it fixes the FFB delay between both devices, unless there's a limitation somewhere 🤔

[bobhelander]

The configuration file does accept multiple devices. Look at the settingsXboxAndMSFFB2.json. There are two sections under devices, one for the sidewinder and one for the XBox controller.

I'm sorry it has taken a long time to respond, please reach out if you would like more help with this.
Bob

[ThreeDeeJay]

Yeah, that's the one I modified to replace the Xbox controller stuff with my steering wheel:

settings.json (used settingsXboxAndMSFFB2.json as base.)

But still only the first device gets FFB. Is the JSON incorrectly formatted or did I miss something? 🤔
It'd be nice to do it properly because my workaround above can sometimes desync (FFB plays on the wheel before the joystick or viceversa)

On a side note, any chance we could get some FFB when driving the SRV?
I have to manually force the wheel to auto-center because it goes limp when the game initializes it, but it'd be nice to have some pull/push effects depending on terrain or when bumping/crashing into stuff (perhaps the API can listen for SRV health loss events or something?)